nagios future?

Andreas Ericsson ae at op5.se
Thu Jun 11 21:33:41 CEST 2009


Michael Friedrich wrote:
> Andreas Ericsson wrote:
>>
>> Well, Merlin *is* a rewrite. It doesn't reuse any code at all from 
>> NDOUtils
>> and it does scale a *lot* better. It replaces NDOUtils for all 
>> GUI-related
>> activities we do at op5, and the database related parts of the GUI code
>> that was previously so arcane it was impossible to debug is now rather
>> straight-forward.
>
> And I really like the idea of it - I just need more time to get a deeper 
> look and also a running testbox with it. But I am pretty sure I will 
> catch on this in a break while developing some dns monitoring tools.
>
>> How can Icinga fit your needs when the underlying model is broken?
>> Sorry, but I just don't get it.
>
> Don't get me wrong but we need to apply and change more than 1 single 
> Nagios-Server over here. Systems are running fine, no need to change 
> that meanwhile. What we need desperately simply is Oracle DB support (it 
> works with NDOUtils Oracle but quite unstable).
> We've decided to relay on the low ressources we can provide to extend 
> the Oracle support by catching up on the most similar system to Nagios. 
> While the NDO remains BETA since 2007 and Ethan did only minor bugfixes 
> this project is going to die ... and the compatibility will die too if 
> Nagios decides to use Merlin instead of NDO - which is a good move - but 
> we have to decide:
> 
> * update Nagios and everything relaying on the DB Model (we have our own 
> tools presenting the data from the DB)
> * stay where we are and hope that nothing will fail
> * search other solutions where we can contribute better and the 
> compatibility will remain
> 

I think I'll sneak a peak at the changes necessary to get NagVis to
support Merlin. I got the feeling when talking to the guy who did it
that the biggest problem lay in understanding what the original query
did before he could write one that got the same data from Merlin. If
that's the case, then perhaps it'll be possible to write some sort of
conversion guide mapping NDOUtils query X to Merlin query Y, both
getting the dataset Z.

>
>> I'd prefer if Merlin can use a driver-agnostic layer. Otherwise one would
>> have to add support for multiple drivers in Merlin.
>>
>> There's also the fact that we lack an oracle database to test against,
>> so whoever adds oracle support to Merlin and Ninja will have to be
>> someone else than me.
>
> As I remarked - I will look up and test Merlin. But meanwhile it should 
> be simple to install a testing stage by yourself. For different 
> Oracle-Queries you may catch up on the NDOUtils Oracle on nagiosforge.com
> 

I'll sneak a peak at them. Thanks. Let me know if you need any help with
getting Merlin up and running. It "works for me", but external testing is
surely required in order to make sure I haven't done something that only
works here.

By the way, kudos to Tom Welsh who's helped me a lot in testing the latest
and greatest Merlin code :-)

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Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson at op5.se
OP5 AB                             www.op5.se
Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

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