Net-SNMP and SNMP4Nagios

[Andreas Ericsson]

Max H. wrote:
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> Andreas Ericsson wrote:
>> This is actually the preferred way of sending to mailinglists where
>> non-subscribers are allowed to post, because the original poster would
>> otherwise be cut out of the loop. As there's no way of telling if a
>> poster *is* on this list (no, I don't know if it can be posted to
>> without subscribing, and I can't be bothered with checking), the only
>> sane way to make sure the original poster and everyone participating in
>> a thread is to reply to all and hope that people on the list have taken
>> the 3 minutes it takes to set up filters to delete duplicate messages
>> *hint, hint*.
>>
>>> I apologize for being to quick to click send instead of taking a peek at
>>> the To: fields. Is this working as designed on the Nagios list? Since
>>> other lists I'm part of seem to do it the way I mentioned so that you
>>> never worry about sending dups.
>>>
>> The "send-only-to-list-when-replying" option is really only useful if
>> only subscribers can post to the list. I assume those other lists are of
>> that kind.
>>
>> Hugo, chill out. Max, you did the right thing. If this list is
>> subscriber only, then whoever set it up botched the job and need to fix
>> it (although I'm sure SF would be perfectly capable of screwing it up
>> and leaving it screwed for all eternity no matter how much grief it
>> causes).
>>
> 
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> After doing a bit of thinking and Googling, I did come across the
> Reply-To munging debate. I found a nice link here explaining why not to
> add Reply-To: <http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html>
> 
> After you read this, things do make sense as to why a list wouldn't add
> a Reply-To header, but this comes with some other annoyances as well.
> Even the author of the above link explains at the ends, that it
> generally runs smooth but you should expect to receive a few e-mails
> privately when not using Reply-To headers and it's basically something
> you have to learn to deal with.
> 
> I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but with that being said, I believe
> that if you aren't going to use the Reply-To then you should be a bit
> tolerant on receiving a private message for that simple reason. I
> understand everyone is busy and doesn't want to receive duplicate
> messages, but at the same time many people don't ever even bother to
> look at e-mail headers. They just want to get a response back and not
> have to worry about it.
> 

True that. What I object against are messages that start with "Hi 
Andreas. Glad you could help" addressed only to me, because I get the 
feeling that they are purposely sent *only* to me, which is very bad 
form. That said, I don't even see emails addressed only to me anymore as 
I set up a filter to automatically delete all such emails that should 
have gone on the Nagios list. Hopefully people that need help will then 
re-send their requests and then make sure they send it to the right place.

> Generally, I don't do this, but I got in a hurry doing way too many
> things at the same time and didn't take the time to delete the extra
> addresses on one or two e-mails, because I'm used to a few of my other
> lists where I don't have to worry about it.
> 
> Again, Hugo I'm sorry for being a bit testy, but I hope this explains my
> self a little more, and Andreas, thanks for your input! Can't we all
> just get along. ;)
> 

We can certainly try. Hugs and beer all around! ;-)

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Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson at op5.se
OP5 AB                             www.op5.se
Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

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