List management

[Jamie Baddeley]

I agree with Sebastian. 

I've been on the list a few years now, and I see no reason to moderate
it. I don't think the problem is big enough to warrant it. Someone had a
dodgy autoresponder over the xmas break. Big Deal. Time to take a chill
pill. 

This is one of the best behaved, self regulated lists I've been on. I
prefer a distributed, self regulated Internet. Having said that I don't
disagree with Wayne Mery's suggestion if it gets really bad. But I
should point out that this thread (list management and autoresponder
complaints) has generated more noise than anything (which sadly, I am
contributing to). Can I kindly and respectfully request a "kill thread"?

Happy (Belated) New Year, and congrats to the Yanks for landing the
Rover on Mars. 

chez, 

jamie 


On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 04:48, Sebastian Schubert wrote: 
> Hi community,
> hi ethan, 
> 
> i don't think we need a 'moderator' for this list. 
> the list ran very well, until some poor boy with to few bandwith
> complained about some emails that took him 4KB (each) of his inbox space
> and instead of creating a filter for these mails or using a spamfilter
> to sort these replies out - like any other would do - he started ask for
> a list manager, and so did others 
> 
> think about it ...
> cheers
> 
> sebastian
> 
> > Indeed, I am the sleeper behind the wheel of the users list.  Work, 
> > life, starting a new company, and Nagios 2.0 keep me too busy to 
> > manage the list much.  I would suggest that someone (preferably two) 
> > people step forward and volunteer to admin the -users and/or -devel 
> > lists.
> > 
> > Here's what I've done in the short-term to deal with some issues 
> > (similiar steps have been in place for most of the other lists for a 
> > few months now):
> > 
> > 1. The nagios-users and nagios-devel lists are now closed to non-
> > members.  You must now be a member of the lists to post.  This is a 
> > little undesireable, but certainly better than dealing with spam.  It 
> > will not, however, help with those stupid vacation programs that 
> > respond to the list.
> 
> > 2. Messages to the -user and -devel lists that are held up for 
> > administrative approval are now automatically rejected every hour via 
> > a cron job.  I don't like doing this, but until someone volunteers to 
> > handle list administration, this is reality.  Most messages requiring 
> > administrative approval involve spam messages, so I don't think its a 
> > big deal.
> > 
> > Any volunteers?  Prepare to be spammed if you do volunteer though... 
> > Spambots grab your address of the list website and if you use a 
> > fake/obfuscated address, you don't get administrative notices. :-(
> 
> 
> -- 
> "In god we trust, the Rest we Monitor"
> Sebastian Schubert - RHCE
> Stadtsparkasse Munich
> Network and Security
> --------------------------
> basti at sskm.net
> Tel.+49 (89) 2167-6399
> Fax.+49 (89) 2167-86399



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