Missing TITLE tag for most (all?) images.

Mike Maurer mike at mikemaurer.net
Sat Aug 2 12:10:42 CEST 2003


I was just about to report the same bug. Getting a plugin to act as a 
workaround isn't the solution.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88297 has a good discussion 
of this issue.

Alt text should only be used to give a text-users' representation of 
images. Title should be used for verbose information for a graphical 
browser. In nagios' situation, most of the time, the alt text could 
probably double verbatim as title. On a normal website, having to use 
extensive title text to make a site understandable would indicate poor 
accessablity design, as it means the graphics aren't really providing 
enough useful information. Nagios is definately not targeting visually 
impared users, but it doesn't hurt to be somewhat accessible and 
accomodate mozilla users. Especially when the change is pretty simple.

IE 6 is supposed to default to not show alt text, most people turn it on 
right away, but some day that option might disappear. It wouldn't be the 
first time microsoft has made a controverisal decision that forced 
millions to change.

Mike

>On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 05:57, Randal, Phil wrote:
>> The easiest workaround is to install popupalt.xpi into
>> Mozilla / Firebird / Netscape 7.x.
>> 
>> http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/_popupalt.html.en <http://white.sakura.ne.jp/%7Epiro/xul/_popupalt.html.en>
>> 
>
>Of course, that doesn't help if you support the idea that misuse of the
>alt tag subverts their uility for those who need the accessibility help.
>
>--
>Karl
>
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Phil Randal
>> Network Engineer
>> Herefordshire Council
>> Hereford, UK 
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Markus Gaugusch [mailto:markus
><at> gaugusch.at <mailto:markus%20%3Cat%3E%20gaugusch.at>]
>> > Sent: 21 July 2003 10:45
>> > To: nagios-devel <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>> > Subject: [Nagios-devel] Missing TITLE tag for most (all?) images.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm using Mozilla and it does not display popup information 
>> > for images, if
>> > there is no TITLE tag present. The ALT tag is (according to mozilla
>> > developers) the wrong place for popup information, although 
>> > still widely
>> > used.
>> > Unfortunately lots of information is contained in the ALT tag 
>> > and it would
>> > be sad if it is lost for mozilla users. The solution is to 
>> > put the text
>> > into both tags (ALT and TITLE), because other browsers 
>> > support only ALT.
>> > 
>> > Markus
>> > PS: please CC: me for answers, I'm not on the list. Thanks!
>> > 
>> > -- 
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