SV: Nagios 2.0 stable

Andreas Ericsson ae at op5.se
Thu Mar 24 09:07:13 CET 2005


Nathan Oyler wrote:
> I think we get it.
> 
> In other words, Nagios is mostly stable because we all say it is. If
> you want to wait to use it, wait.
> 

Apart from the embedded perl thingie. The last workaround I saw for its 
memory leakage was nothing short of horrid (it involved calling the 
init-script....).

> I don't know why anyone cares. There's no real need to upgrade anyway
> unless it fixes some problem you have, which it did for me. Are we
> all really itchin to use service groups?
> 
> And I still have a problem I've yet to find out how to correct, that
> I did not have with Nagios 1.2.
> 
> So whatever. The 1.4 plugin release was a bigger upgrade to me.
> 

Funny you should mention that, as the "stable" 1.4 release of the 
plugins (which are fairly simple to test) was riddled with bugs, while 
nagios (which is extremely difficult to test extensively) seems 
rock-stable in comparison.

> 
>> -----Original Message----- From:
>> nagios-users-admin at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:nagios-users- 
>> admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Jeff McCune Sent:
>> Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:41 PM To:
>> nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Nagios-users] Re: SV:
>> Nagios 2.0 stable
>> 
>>> On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:39 +0100, Bergström Sebastian wrote:
>>>> I realise that my question is unclear. I"m refering to the fact
>>>> that 2.0 still is in beta. We are running v.1.2 currently and
>>>> are interested in the v.2.0. I"m wondering if anyone has an
>>>> idea of how much time it might take before 2.0 can go into a
>>>> stable (non-beta) state. Any idea?
>>> 
>>> To put it bluntly: Who Cares?
>> 
>> I do.  I think it's possible I'm not the only one.
>> 
>>> There are so many of us running it in production (I, myself, have
>>> been doing so since "alpha"), isn"t that good enough?
>> 
>> I'm curious how the release of bacula 2.0 relates to your choice to
>> use alpha software in a production environment?
>> 
>>> There will always be bugs, no matter what you call it (alpha,
>>> beta, pr, rc, gold, etc).
>> 
>> I'd like to quote http://dict.die.net/beta%20software/
>> 
>> beta software n : pre-release software that has received an alpha
>> test but still has more bugs than a regular release; "beta software
>> is usually available only to particular users who will test it"
>> 
>>> In my, and I"m sure many others", experience,
>>> super-pre-double-alpha code from a nice community-supported
>>> project like this is still going to have less bugs than anything
>>> similar from Microsoft no matter how many "final" versions they
>>> have.
>> 
>> How does estimating the release of version 2.0 will be released?
>> 
>> Have you considered the possibility that people have different 
>> experiences than you?  You don't think it's possible that there are
>>  people who prefer not to run beta software in production
>> environments.
>> 
>>> And if something major does come up, there"s usually a
>>> fix/work-around in a few hours or days, not weeks or months.
>> 
>> What about the problem of certain mailing list contributors missing
>> the boat entirely in response to a perfectly reasonable question?
>> Could you please fix/work-around that problem in a few hours or
>> days?
>> 
>>> So, just run it. If you don"t like it, I"ll buy you a coke.
>> 
>> I have no comment about that remark...
>> 
>> Regards, -- Jeff McCune OSU Department of Mathematics System
>> Support (614) 292-4962 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key
>> BAF3211A
> 
> 
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