SV: Nagios 2.0 stable

[Petrucci, Joseph]

It is hard enough to talk large companies into using opensource products without having to explain to them it is a Beta. I have several companies that I monitor remotely and will not run a beta version. It would look to my clients like do not care if I can actually support them or not. Also In my testing (which admittedly just started) I am having trouble with Distributed Nagios instances. I believe it is just a config issue and have not had much time to research it but Version 2.0 is not as stable as 1.2 as far as I can see.

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From: nagios-users-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:nagios-users-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Sean Dilda
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:31 AM
To: boinger at tradingtechnologies.com
Cc: Bergström Sebastian; nagios-users
Subject: Re: SV: [Nagios-users] Nagios 2.0 stable


jeff vier wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:39 +0100, Bergström Sebastian wrote:
> 
>>I realise that my question is unclear. I'm refering to the fact that 2.0 still is in beta. 
>>We are running v.1.2 currently and are interested in the v.2.0.
>>
>>I'm wondering if anyone has an idea of how much time it might take before 2.0 can go into a stable (non-beta) state.
>>
>>Any idea?
> 
> 
> To put it bluntly: Who Cares?

Most professionals.

> 
> There are so many of us running it in production (I, myself, have been
> doing so since "alpha"), isn't that good enough?

Just because you walk the bleeding edge doesn't mean everyone else wants to.

> 
> There will always be bugs, no matter what you call it (alpha, beta, pr,
> rc, gold, etc).
> 
> In my, and I'm sure many others', experience, super-pre-double-alpha
> code from a nice community-supported project like this is still going to
> have less bugs than anything similar from Microsoft no matter how many
> "final" versions they have.
> 
> And if something major does come up, there's usually a fix/work-around
> in a few hours or days, not weeks or months.

I'm not opposed to using software that's still under development, but I 
try to avoid it whenever possible in production environments.  If its as 
good as you say it is, then maybe it shouldn't be called beta, but 
that's an argument to be made with the developers, not the users.

For most projects, terms like 'alpha' and 'beta' have certain meanings 
in regards to how stable/tested the code is and how likely it is to 
change before final release.  And likewise, official releases tend to 
not do things like drastically change the config layout as part of a 
bugfix, whereas an alpha or beta might.

You may have no problems with it, and that's great.  However, there are 
people out there whose job performance is tied to how well stuff like 
this operates.  As such, they tend to make the wise choice of waiting 
for an official release before investing time setting up something and 
risking having to completely change your setup in a couple of weeks.  To 
many professionals, having an official (as opposed to beta) release is 
an indication from the developers that this code is ready for prime time 
and will have bugfixes that don't cause you to rework things.


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