Web-Based config

[Carroll, Jim P [Contractor]]

ObHumour (Part Deux):

Striving towards a "user-obsequious" goal...?

(Definition found here: http://www.jargon.8hz.com/jargon_36.html#SEC43 )

jc


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jason at cannonfodder.org [mailto:jason at cannonfodder.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: nagios-users at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Web-Based config
> 
> 
> just my .02 worth.
> 
> I am going to have to agree. We have ~300 hosts and ~1500 services and
> the initial setup of nagios was a major project. Add to that the fact
> that I would have to "dumb down" the documentation even more and give
> our support staff access I dont want them to have in order for them to
> be able to setup new hosts and services. 
> 
> on Thu Mar 20 Brandon Gillespie spoke forth with the blessed 
> manuscript
> > Carroll, Jim P [Contractor] wrote:
> > >Not sure whether Fredrik needs to get with Ethan on this 
> one, at least not
> > >as far as a seamless, shrinkwrapped integration is concerned.
> > >
> > >Today you can download the core product.  And plugins.  
> And addons (NRPE,
> > >NSCA, others).  And image packs.
> > >
> > >I could be speaking out of turn here, but I suspect 
> Fredrik intended NATO 
> > >to
> > >be another addon.
> 
> > IMHO, it should be a part of the application, not an 
> add-on.  Being able 
> > to easily configure is vital to any application.  I have 
> pointed several 
> > people to Nagios, and they like how it looks, they download 
> it, etc. 
> > But then they get to the point where they want to configure 
> it, they see 
> > the poor documentation (sorry, lots of docs != good docs) 
> and are then 
> > pointed at these copious .cfg files and they just say 
> forget it, and 
> > move onto other things.  If you dont want to get into deep hacking, 
> > there are much easier tools to use for this purpose than to 
> configure 
> > Nagios.
> 
> > I like to get into the guts of things, and I still think 
> configuring 
> > nagios is annoying because it is forcing me to spend a LOT of time 
> > configuring something which could be so much easier to do 
> with a proper 
> > interface.  The fact that many people hack tools to make it easier 
> > configuring Nagios is a big sign saying there is a problem.
> 
> > Sure, nagios is not hard to configure if you have a few 
> servers.  Do it 
> > on a scale of 50~100+ and it is no longer trivial, it gets horribly 
> > redundant and annoying, even using templates.
> 
> > Modularity is good, but some things should remain core to 
> the system. 
> > If I never had to look at another nagios config file I'd be 
> more than happy.
> 
> > -Brandon
> 
> 
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