Ask Ethan

anthony paradis funkyman78 at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 2 10:18:58 CET 2010


Ethan,

Thanks for theses responses :)

AP

> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:55:29 -0600
> From: egalstad at nagios.org
> To: nagios-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Nagios-devel] Ask Ethan
> 
> 
> The recent messages on this list indicate a need for better 
> communication between parties.  It may be exciting to start a flame war 
> or launch personal attacks based on unfounded assumptions, but its not 
> effective or beneficial.
> 
> If you have questions for me about what I think regarding the future of 
> the Nagios Project, commercialization of Nagios, Nagios XI, trademarks, 
> community stuff, etc. - just ask.  In order to expedite and coordinate 
> responses to share with the community, I've created a new "Ask Ethan" 
> form online where you can submit questions to me about whatever you'd 
> like.  I'll answer these questions in the monthly Nagios News that goes 
> out.  As long as there continues to be new questions, I'll do my best to 
> make "Ask Ethan" a permanent monthly section in the newsletter.  Submit 
> a question at:
> 
> http://www.nagios.com/askethan
> 
> Here are some quick responses to questions I've seen asked.  If you want 
> more detail on any of these, submit an "Ask Ethan" question at the link 
> above and I'll go into more depth in the newsletter...
> 
> 1. Nagios Core and other OSS components of the Nagios Project are 
> important to both myself and Nagios Enterprises.  Nagios XI (like many 
> other commercial solutions) is based on those components and we 
> definitely want those projects to flourish in the future.  *I* may not 
> be the person actually coding or integrating patches (I've done that for 
> over a decade now), but I'm dedicated to finding ways to ensure the 
> project continues for at least the next decade.  And just so there's no 
> confusion on the subject, Nagios Core will always be free as in speech 
> and beer.
> 
> 2. Our commercial Nagios XI solution is not 100% Open Source, and it 
> probably won't ever be in its entirety.  There are some really great 
> components that we license from other parties and we plan to include 
> other licensed components in the future.  Why?  They provide a better 
> solution to our customers than OSS alternatives (if they even exist). 
> Most all other commercial Nagios solutions out there go the same route.
> 
> 3. While its relatively new for Nagios Enterprises, commercialization of 
> Nagios is going to expand in the future, so we can continue to provide 
> more great solutions for the people that need them.  Commercialization 
> also makes it easier to provide resources to ensure the existing free 
> OSS projects prosper, and that new projects can be funded.   If you 
> object to the commercialization of Nagios, consider this: the only 
> reason I wrote Nagios and released it as an OSS project in the first 
> place is because I intended to use it for commercial purposes.
> 
> 4. We have, are, and will continue to regulate the use of the Nagios 
> mark and prevent its misuse to ensure the integrity of the Nagios name 
> and the future of the Nagios Project - just as I was personally doing 
> long before the conception of Nagios Enterprises.  Our trademark policy 
> is almost an exact clone of the Ubuntu trademark policy.  Its a great 
> policy that fits the needs of both community advocacy and the commercial 
> legal requirements for brand protection, anti-dilution, and consumer 
> confusion.  Open Source licenses like the GPL only address copyright - 
> not trademark.  Trademarks are a separate type of intellectual property 
> that is out of scope with what copyright covers.
> 
> 5. I've dedicated the past 11 years to the Nagios project and have done 
> my best to keep the project going and keep it within the scope of what a 
> monitoring engine should be.  You can jump to all the conclusions you'd 
> like, but unless you've dedicated several consecutive years to building, 
> maintaining, and supporting a project like Nagios, you simply have no 
> idea what it takes to take care of everything that happens along the 
> way.  The choices that I make are what I consider to be in the best 
> interest of the project in the long run.  You don't have to agree with 
> me.  I have no intention of trying to make each and every single Nagios 
> user out there happy.  It isn't possible.
> 
> 6. There is nothing broken or wrong with Nagios Core the way it is.  Its 
> a monitoring *engine*.  It works well for hundreds of thousands of users 
> today.  Many people still run Nagios 2.x, 1.x, or even NetSaint - 
> because its works just the way it is.  An integrated DB-backend, web 
> based configuration engine, and a whole lot of other stuff are out of 
> scope for Nagios Core - that's what addons are for.  Even the Nagios 
> Plugins are out of scope for Nagios Core - that's why they're a separate 
> project.  If you want something additional in Nagios, check out all the 
> addons that are available on Nagios Exchange.  Start your own addon 
> project if a suitable one doesn't exist, or contribute to an existing 
> project if you see a need for improvement.  If you see a problem in 
> Nagios Core, step up and make a patch.  Don't complain if someone else 
> doesn't produce something that you want.
> 
> Lastly, I would urge you to wait a few hours and consider things 
> carefully before you decide to fire off a flaming email insulting or 
> making accusations towards myself, other core contributors, or community 
> members.  Its not only unprofessional and counterproductive, it is also 
> somewhat self-defeating in that it is akin to biting the hand that feeds 
> you.  If you insult Nagios OSS developers, how do you expect new 
> contributors to want to join the various Nagios projects and donate 
> their free time to bring you great software?  It doesn't make sense.  I 
> could have a hell of a time asking new people to join the teams if they 
> expect to be treated poorly by people they're delivering free stuff to.
> 
> Remember that people that contribute to OSS projects like Nagios 
> generally do so in their free time, and of their own accord.  You can't 
> expect everyone to be available to you all the time, and at any time you 
> wish.  I don't owe you anything when it comes to the time I can commit 
> to various projects and neither do the other people that contribute 
> their time to Nagios projects.  Period.
> 
> - Ethan
> 
> 
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